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phelen
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6798 posts since 16/8/06

29 Jul 2022 17:39
Ukrainian Nazi? Seems like an oxymoron

I totally understand there existing hard-right Ukrainian nationalists

But nazis? The Nazis literally saw all Slavs as inferior and wanted to genocide them to make living space for Germans and did exactly that in Ukraine. When the Nazis invaded and the Ukrainians briefly saw them as liberators from Stalin it took like 3 months before everyone realized they were genocidal monsters. Read up the history.
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

posted 29 Jul 2022 17:45, edited 29 Jul 2022 17:45
phelen wrote: Ukrainian Nazi? Seems like an oxymoron

I totally understand there existing hard-right Ukrainian nationalists

But nazis? The Nazis literally saw all Slavs as inferior and wanted to genocide them to make living space for Germans and did exactly that in Ukraine. When the Nazis invaded and the Ukrainians briefly saw them as liberators from Stalin it took like 3 months before everyone realized they were genocidal monsters. Read up the history.
I know all about Ukraine's history, and how they fostered Nazism since the 30s and 40s, with the help of the United States, all the way up to the 2010s when Victoria Neulund help to install the current Nazi regime. It's not me making it an oxymoron to have Ukrainian nazis, it's literally Ukrainian Nazi battalions in the Ukrainian military that are calling themselves nazis. At least up until they were called out for it a couple of months ago.
smith
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11788 posts since 5/5/04

29 Jul 2022 17:53
I just arrived at my golf club. I wish you a good weekend Sayword. I'll be back on Monday to answer all your questions Smiling
figurine
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6214 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2022 17:57
Sayword wrote:
phelen wrote: Ukrainian Nazi? Seems like an oxymoron

I totally understand there existing hard-right Ukrainian nationalists

But nazis? The Nazis literally saw all Slavs as inferior and wanted to genocide them to make living space for Germans and did exactly that in Ukraine. When the Nazis invaded and the Ukrainians briefly saw them as liberators from Stalin it took like 3 months before everyone realized they were genocidal monsters. Read up the history.
I know all about Ukraine's history, and how they fostered Nazism since the 30s and 40s, with the help of the United States, all the way up to the 2010s when Victoria Neulund help to install the current Nazi regime. It's not me making it an oxymoron to have Ukrainian nazis, it's literally Ukrainian Nazi battalions in the Ukrainian military that are calling themselves nazis. At least up until they were called out for it a couple of months ago.
Are there any books you'd recommend on the topic?
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

29 Jul 2022 18:09
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote:
phelen wrote: Ukrainian Nazi? Seems like an oxymoron

I totally understand there existing hard-right Ukrainian nationalists

But nazis? The Nazis literally saw all Slavs as inferior and wanted to genocide them to make living space for Germans and did exactly that in Ukraine. When the Nazis invaded and the Ukrainians briefly saw them as liberators from Stalin it took like 3 months before everyone realized they were genocidal monsters. Read up the history.
I know all about Ukraine's history, and how they fostered Nazism since the 30s and 40s, with the help of the United States, all the way up to the 2010s when Victoria Neulund help to install the current Nazi regime. It's not me making it an oxymoron to have Ukrainian nazis, it's literally Ukrainian Nazi battalions in the Ukrainian military that are calling themselves nazis. At least up until they were called out for it a couple of months ago.
Are there any books you'd recommend on the topic?
I think books are too hard for you at this current point. You don't even know what an opinion is nor an adjective.

But I'll make it easy for you, you can watch this

phelen
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6798 posts since 16/8/06

posted 29 Jul 2022 18:10, edited 29 Jul 2022 18:10
Talking about the Azov Battalion right, regardless the pretense is almost as comically bad as the US invading Iraqi.
phelen
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6798 posts since 16/8/06

posted 29 Jul 2022 18:12, edited 29 Jul 2022 18:12
Oliver Stone is a USSR/Russia fanboy. Always has been. You outta watch "Untold History of the USA" on Netflix. He fawns over the Soviet Union over and over

https://khpg.org/en/1480891067
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

29 Jul 2022 18:22
Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too
figurine
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6214 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2022 18:33
Sayword wrote: Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too

What about the civilians they're killing and the war crimes too?

I'd rather a book as a source than some video, I find the videos you post tend to be bollocks.
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

29 Jul 2022 18:39
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote: Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too

What about the civilians they're killing and the war crimes too?

I'd rather a book as a source than some video, I find the videos you post tend to be bollocks.
the civilians have been letting Nazism fester for more than 70 years. Whatever happens happens.
phelen
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6798 posts since 16/8/06

29 Jul 2022 18:40
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote: Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too

What about the civilians they're killing and the war crimes too?

I'd rather a book as a source than some video, I find the videos you post tend to be bollocks.

That video does fall in the heavily biased\dubious terrority.It omits the fact the documentary was financed from the Russian government. It was broadcast on Russian State TV and is literally Russia's response to the acclaimed 'Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom academy award nominated documentary.

So more propaganda than documentary.
figurine
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6214 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2022 18:45
Sayword wrote:
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote: Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too

What about the civilians they're killing and the war crimes too?

I'd rather a book as a source than some video, I find the videos you post tend to be bollocks.
the civilians have been letting Nazism fester for more than 70 years. Whatever happens happens.
So Russian neo-Nazis killing Ukrainian civilians is good then?

I'm not surprised you can't give a better source than a propaganda video.
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

posted 29 Jul 2022 18:51, edited 29 Jul 2022 18:51
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote:
figurine wrote:
Sayword wrote: Russia keeps killing them damn Ukrainian nazis, you can call me a fanboy too

What about the civilians they're killing and the war crimes too?

I'd rather a book as a source than some video, I find the videos you post tend to be bollocks.
the civilians have been letting Nazism fester for more than 70 years. Whatever happens happens.
So Russian neo-Nazis killing Ukrainian civilians is good then?
once again you're terrible logic shows itself. I said I would be a fan if Russia keeps killing Ukrainian nazis. You asked what about the citizens, and I said "what about them?" essentially.

Now in your warped twisted mind, you equate that to meaning that killing citizens is good.


I've never said this. I said I don't give a fuck about what happens to the citizens, because the citizens are the reason why they have problems currently. I'm indifferent.

Now if those citizens are nazis, which they most likely are, then yes that would be good.
morning mist
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3698 posts since 29/5/05

29 Jul 2022 18:55
Sayword wrote: I'm indifferent.

I wouldn't be if someone murdered you. I would be happy.
figurine
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6214 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2022 18:56
So it's worth thousands of Ukrainian civilians dying so a handful of Ukrainian neo Nazis can be killed? That's a bit of a bizarre stance, especially when you consider there's loads of neo Nazis in the Russian army as well. I didn't twist your words, I asked a couple of questions, I needed to fill in the blanks because you can't seem to answer a question directly.
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

29 Jul 2022 19:01
morning mist wrote:
Sayword wrote: I'm indifferent.

I wouldn't be if someone murdered you. I would be happy.
that would never happen, in my country, specifically my state, I can defend myself.


I'm never going to die, and you'll probably die before I ever will.
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

posted 29 Jul 2022 19:04, edited 29 Jul 2022 19:04
figurine wrote: So it's worth thousands of Ukrainian civilians dying so a handful of Ukrainian neo Nazis can be killed? That's a bit of a bizarre stance, especially when you consider there's loads of neo Nazis in the Russian army as well. I didn't twist your words, I asked a couple of questions, I needed to fill in the blanks because you can't seem to answer a question directly.
I see that you're filling in the blanks, that's all you do is fill in the blanks instead of taking people's words for what they are. Same with holding people's opinions in high regard, again you might have to look up the definition of opinion because you don't know what it means.

Ukraine is the reason why Ukraine is having problems in Ukraine. Ukraine has let Nazism fester in their country for more than 70 years.

When you let sin fester, judgment will come from God in ways that you can't even imagine. And it's usually the sin that takes you out, I.e Nazis killing Nazis.
figurine
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6214 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2022 19:09
If you would just answer questions directly then I wouldn't need to fill in the blanks, but instead you write long pointless posts to avoid it. Dunning Kruger comes to mind.
morning mist
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3698 posts since 29/5/05

29 Jul 2022 19:16
I take it back, i don't wish death on mentally ill people
Sayword
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5970 posts since 1/4/07

29 Jul 2022 19:23
figurine wrote: If you would just answer questions directly then I wouldn't need to fill in the blanks, but instead you write long pointless posts to avoid it. Dunning Kruger comes to mind.
what's crazy is that every post that I have made has been very direct, precise and clear.

It's this globalist liberal world order mindset that you have, where explaining things so that they can't be misconstrued in Long precise post; where adjectives of words don't mean the definition of the word that they come from like opinion and opinionated; and where you can support Ukrainian Nazis, while labeling people who are anti-globalism, as anti-Semitic, that is pointless and not direct.