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Kadafi39
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2193 posts since 30/10/09

16 Aug 2022 15:49
MerciBeau wrote: All of this waffle has about as much real world validity as a 11 year old's dungeons and dragons pantheon. Its fun worldbuilding theorycraft, but if you think it applies to reality you should lay off the wacky baccy for a while lads.

The only rule that really matters: "Is it lindy?" - so with that in mind; what real world examples are there of a society that was organised by these unhinged principles?

That shit isn't strong enough to make you this delusional. I haven't read it properly as most of is mind numbingly stupid but are people really suggesting doing away with prison and punishment and let people live free and "naturally" lol Laughing out loud
Sayword
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5983 posts since 1/4/07

16 Aug 2022 15:49
burny wrote:
Sayword wrote: What about not having a government is so hard for you to understand?

People build infrastructure.

People create new ideas and inventions.

People keep the peace.

What does the government have to do with any of these things beside the regulation of it?

The internet, GPS, lithium batteries, touch-screens, etc all started out as government-funded projects. All of which take years and years of funded research and development to achieve results. Without that funding, they wouldn't have happened. Governments can take the risks that venture capitalists often can't and for periods of time that VCs won't. How else is your society going to be funded?
the people gave the government funding for these things.

Maybe these things can be crowdsourced if the people feel that they are necessary.

Otherwise as sovereigns, people are going to have to figure out how to acquire these resources while following natural law.

It's not like people can't ask for funding, somebody May oblige.


Wealthy philanthropist fund a lot of shit look at Bill Gates, he's arguably put more money into funding things than governments.

This argument is kind of irrelevant, you would need a better point to why government is needed, funding projects is not a good point. I could argue that governments funding these things led to restrictions in the creations of these things, from timelines, to regulations.


MerciBeau wrote: All of this waffle has about as much real world validity as a 11 year old's dungeons and dragons pantheon. Its fun worldbuilding theorycraft, but if you think it applies to reality you should lay off the wacky baccy for a while lads.

The only rule that really matters: "Is it lindy?" - so with that in mind; what real world examples are there of a society that was organised by these unhinged principles?
the United States for the most part has been an example of this society. A group of sovereign states coming together to form a society, through the Constitution.
Sayword
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5983 posts since 1/4/07

16 Aug 2022 15:53
Kadafi39 wrote:
MerciBeau wrote: All of this waffle has about as much real world validity as a 11 year old's dungeons and dragons pantheon. Its fun worldbuilding theorycraft, but if you think it applies to reality you should lay off the wacky baccy for a while lads.

The only rule that really matters: "Is it lindy?" - so with that in mind; what real world examples are there of a society that was organised by these unhinged principles?

That shit isn't strong enough to make you this delusional. I haven't read it properly as most of is mind numbingly stupid but are people really suggesting doing away with prison and punishment and let people live free and "naturally" lol Laughing out loud
why comment if you haven't even read anything? Reading is fundamental because nothing in your post has anything to do with the subject at hand.
MerciBeau
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4449 posts since 7/7/06

16 Aug 2022 16:07
Sayword wrote:
MerciBeau wrote: All of this waffle has about as much real world validity as a 11 year old's dungeons and dragons pantheon. Its fun worldbuilding theorycraft, but if you think it applies to reality you should lay off the wacky baccy for a while lads.

The only rule that really matters: "Is it lindy?" - so with that in mind; what real world examples are there of a society that was organised by these unhinged principles?
the United States for the most part has been an example of this society. A group of sovereign states coming together to form a society, through the Constitution.

The USA still has government and man made laws though.

And even if the USA is this so called natural law, you come up with the issue that the USA is simply too young a country to make any kind of generalisations as to whether it works yet. Give it 300, 400 more years then let's see if the US system works. It was only founded in the late 19th century, there are literal pubs in London that are hundreds of years older.

I live in the USA and come across this all the time, it's like people here don't seem to understand how they are still just an experiment.
morning mist
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3718 posts since 29/5/05

16 Aug 2022 16:16
Milspex is functioning on a higher level of political thinking when he is playing with his plastic soldiers
Sayword
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5983 posts since 1/4/07

posted 16 Aug 2022 16:17, edited 16 Aug 2022 16:17
MerciBeau wrote:
Sayword wrote:
MerciBeau wrote: All of this waffle has about as much real world validity as a 11 year old's dungeons and dragons pantheon. Its fun worldbuilding theorycraft, but if you think it applies to reality you should lay off the wacky baccy for a while lads.

The only rule that really matters: "Is it lindy?" - so with that in mind; what real world examples are there of a society that was organised by these unhinged principles?
the United States for the most part has been an example of this society. A group of sovereign states coming together to form a society, through the Constitution.

The USA still has government and man made laws though.

And even if the USA is this so called natural law, you come up with the issue that the USA is simply too young a country to make any kind of generalisations as to whether it works yet. Give it 300, 400 more years then let's see if the US system works. It was only founded in the late 19th century, there are literal pubs in London that are hundreds of years older.

I live in the USA and come across this all the time, it's like people here don't seem to understand how they are still just an experiment.
the last sentence of your post explains it all.

This is an experiment in anarchy, the American experience. We still have sovereign states. The problem is we gave the federal government too much power. But we're moving back to the sovereignty of states.

We can debate whether or not we're true anarchist all day long here in America. That's not the point


The point is the United States is the most anarchic country of all the countries in the world. We have sovereignty from the state level down to the personal level.

I don't know why you people think that anarchy is the absence of law, when anarchy is just the absence of government.
pentonville
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1070 posts since 12/3/12

16 Aug 2022 19:12
If natural law extends to the banning of quoting and re-quoting these fucking endless paragraphs of guff I'm all for it
Seventyfour
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9613 posts since 6/10/05

16 Aug 2022 19:16
Laughing out loud
morning mist
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3718 posts since 29/5/05

16 Aug 2022 19:30
pentonville wrote: If natural law extends to the banning of quoting and re-quoting these fucking endless paragraphs of guff I'm all for it

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

-Golden Rule
Sayword
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5983 posts since 1/4/07

17 Aug 2022 04:04
morning mist wrote:
pentonville wrote: If natural law extends to the banning of quoting and re-quoting these fucking endless paragraphs of guff I'm all for it

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

-Golden Rule
do you mock God?