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swede
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10512 posts since 21/3/09

21 Dec 2021 17:47
smith wrote: One was even telling me all about the psychology of playing two potential buyers off each other in order to get them to outbid each other. Cunt.

because they are trying to make you more money. stop being such a commie
smith
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11789 posts since 5/5/04

21 Dec 2021 17:59
Make themselves more money you mean. No fixed fee estate agents round my way.
sydneyking
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5221 posts since 26/9/09

21 Dec 2021 18:00
Doogan wrote: Pretty old - 1970. I think it's a brick wall in between sheets of plasterboard which is presumably on a frame. I thought it would be quite well soundproofed but it's worse than my previous flat. There's two sockets on the wall. Not sure if that would cause any issues.

The neighbours aren't particularly loud, I just really don't like hearing folk and I don't like the idea that they can probably hear my TV as well.

I’ve never heard my neighbours, other than the son who sometimes sounds like he’s having a breakdown playing fifa. my mrs’ old house was a 70s semi. You could hear the neighbours tv through the wall in that house.
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

21 Dec 2021 20:59
Crackajack wrote: This video gives a good overview of a DIY job - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErGqRzzz_Vw

Cheers mate. That makes me think I could try to do something similar.
Paul88
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298 posts since 6/12/12

21 Dec 2021 23:36
Just watched the video, soundproofing products usually carry a bit of a premium. If you fancy doing it yourself, I'd strap the wall with 2"X2" timber and cut 50mm insulation board to fit. Sheet and plaster it.

You could use insulated plasterboard as well but that would lose you a extra 50mm. Wouldn't be too expensive.
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

22 Dec 2021 00:13
Paul88 wrote: Just watched the video, soundproofing products usually carry a bit of a premium. If you fancy doing it yourself, I'd strap the wall with 2"X2" timber and cut 50mm insulation board to fit. Sheet and plaster it.

You could use insulated plasterboard as well but that would lose you a extra 50mm. Wouldn't be too expensive.

Cheers mate. Would I have to build a wooden frame that doesn't touch the existing wall in order to create a void, or is that not too important?
Paul88
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298 posts since 6/12/12

22 Dec 2021 09:38
Doogan wrote: Cheers mate. Would I have to build a wooden frame that doesn't touch the existing wall in order to create a void, or is that not too important?

If you wanted to create a void you'd need to build a stud wall out of 3x2 with 400mm spacings and youll lose more of the room.

Personally if I knew the existing wall was solid I'd just fix the 2x2 to it and put in 50mm insulation board, like this https://www.insulationsuperstore.co.uk/product/celotex-ga4050-insulation-board-2400mm-x-1200mm.html. Then I'd sheet it with https://www.insulationsuperstore.co.uk/product/british-gypsum-gyproc-tapered-soundbloc-board-24m-x-12m-x-125mm.html.

There's obviously better options with soundproofing but the price jump would be pretty dramatic.

There's some nice options for wall coverings, like this https://www.thewoodveneerhub.co.uk/products/acupanel-natural-oak-acoustic-wood-panel. I priced it up for my living room but didn't fancy paying that.
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

22 Dec 2021 10:03
Cheers mate, very helpful.

I think the wall between my house and the neighbours is a brick wall with a void and then plasterboard. So it's not really ideal for building onto.
Paul88
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298 posts since 6/12/12

22 Dec 2021 10:23
If there is already a timber frame behind the existing wall you could just sheet over the existing plaster board. Something like this already has the insulation attached https://www.insulationsuperstore.co.uk/product/soundboard-4-acoustic-wall-board-52db-reduction-1-2m-x-1-2m-x-30mm.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAtouOBhA6EiwA2nLKH49p5-Fak9n8XzrVpcKP_F6oW2fgKpblJHoP9m_bMkbRWyVx6QiNZhoCYJEQAvD_BwE. But as you see the price is pretty steep.
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

22 Dec 2021 10:45
Something that could be glued on would be ideal but that particular product looks very heavy and probably too expensive.

If I screwed a wooden frame to the existing wall, filled the gaps with rock wool or something similar and then sheeted with plaster board, do you think that would make a reasonable difference?
Paul88
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298 posts since 6/12/12

22 Dec 2021 17:41
Doogan wrote: Something that could be glued on would be ideal but that particular product looks very heavy and probably too expensive.

If I screwed a wooden frame to the existing wall, filled the gaps with rock wool or something similar and then sheeted with plaster board, do you think that would make a reasonable difference?

Yeah that's pretty much what I described to do. Rock wool does the same job as the celotex board and is probably cheaper. Normal plasterboard is roughly 8quid a board and soundbloc is 12quid, works out at roughly £1.40 extra a m2 and only weighs an extra 2kg a m2.
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

22 Dec 2021 20:07
Cool

Thanks mate, very helpful.
velvet
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9573 posts since 12/6/06

24 Dec 2021 01:09
Any plumbers on here? I have a question about broken concealed shower valve.
Thank!
smith
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11789 posts since 5/5/04

3 Jan 2022 10:27
Accepted an offer on my house to someone chain free. Third viewing. Other two made an offer slightly under my price.

Got the exact price I was after and the higher end of the valuations (and slightly higher than a very similar property that recently sold down the road).

No bidding wars necessary.

Nice not to have to deal with Estate Agents and pay them for doing bugger all Sticking out tongue
Goldie
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4840 posts since 17/10/07

3 Jan 2022 11:00
velvet wrote: Any plumbers on here? I have a question about broken concealed shower valve.
Thank!

Yes mate
Doogan
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1257 posts since 13/4/14

posted 3 Jan 2022 17:48, edited 3 Jan 2022 17:48
On my poorly soundproofed house, I've removed the dot and dabbed plasterboard from my main bedroom wall. I'll fill any holes in the brickwork and underneath the flooring. I'll then build a stud wall and fill with rock wool and cover with acoustic plasterboard. Really hope it makes it a difference! I'll have to repeat this process for the other bedroom and then the livingroom below as all 3 rooms are attached to the party wall.

Essence
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3137 posts since 10/1/05

3 Jan 2022 18:01
smith wrote: Anyone sold a house themselves? Looking at using strike or doorstep to get in on zoopla and rightmove.

Really don't want to deal with local estate agents. They all over-valued my property massively to get my business. One was even telling me all about the psychology of playing two potential buyers off each other in order to get them to outbid each other. Cunt.

When viewing houses i found Purple Bricks great to use.
Fuzzyduck121
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1640 posts since 14/12/12

3 Jan 2022 20:59
Essence wrote:
smith wrote: Anyone sold a house themselves? Looking at using strike or doorstep to get in on zoopla and rightmove.

Really don't want to deal with local estate agents. They all over-valued my property massively to get my business. One was even telling me all about the psychology of playing two potential buyers off each other in order to get them to outbid each other. Cunt.

When viewing houses i found Purple Bricks great to use.

Do you guys want to pay nothing or next to nothing for a pair of shoes and expect them to be better then a pair you pay a premium for ?

People don’t understand the true economics of the property market nor do they acknowledge the fact that literally 95% of the work comes after the price is agreed between the parties.

The idea that “ why pay for someone to stick it on Rightmove or , they all do the same thing “ well all shoes do the same fucking thing and all shoe shops sell the same product but none of us are shopping in Wynsors world of shoes

Oh also just read here to find out how utterly shite PB are. For the investors here there’s a reason the purple bricks share price is down from 508 to 23p

https://www.allagents.co.uk/purplebricks.com/

Yep I’m an agent, no I don’t want any of you fukers as a client so I have nothing to gain or lose here but I can tell you having had 25 years in the industry that , whilst there are always exceptions to the rule you are , on the balance of probabilities going to get a wank service and less for your house using an online agent or even worse thinking you can do it yourself.

If you think you are a good negotiator, you aren’t mate
If you think you can sell your own home and people will give you honest feedback about your own house to your face without an intermediary, you won’t mate
If you think it’s about a board and a rightmove listing , it isn’t mate
And even worse if you think you understood the legal process of conveyancing in England you really fucking don’t mate

This post isn’t about advice being given you can all fuck off if you want that Laughing out loud …but the only thing I can say is that the only thing , literally the only thing that matters , is the net gain you receive. To obsess over a fee being charged is missing the point entirely. The price minus the fee is what matters as that’s what you get so stop asking yourself or the agents what they charge and start wondering and working out who will get you the most.

Facts



YLAup
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5934 posts since 5/9/11

3 Jan 2022 21:20
Anyone live on a canal boat?
andymakesglasses
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20740 posts since 26/1/06

3 Jan 2022 21:23
Fuzzyduck121 wrote: none of us are shopping in Wynsors world of shoes

I think swede might be.